Jacques Herbin 1670 Turquoise de Perse — Ink Review #157

 Jacques Herbin 1670 - Turquoise de Perse

 

Ink Review # 157

 

Originally posted on FPN: Nov 6, 2024

 

Ink: Turquoise de Perse

Brand: Jacques Herbin 1670

Country: France

Availability: 50 ml bottles.

Pens Used: Lamy Safari (reverse EF, EF / F / M / B / Stub 1.1), Kanwrite with Ahab flex nib.

Description

A pure turquoise with gold shimmer, the eighth ink in the 1670 series.

 

Ink is very wet, slightly below-average in lubrication like most turquoises, has long dry times on Rhodia, and has feeble water resistance.

 

Colour can be reminiscent of turquoise gems or domes of mosques in Persia, aka Iran.

 

I would have preferred it with a silver shimmer. I cannot see turquoise with gold, but then I don't like shimmer, so it's immaterial.

 

A note on the word Perse, French for Persia, vs. Iran.

 

Persia is derived from the word Pārsa, Pars, Fars, the name of a province in modern Iran, and the Iranian tribe from which Cyrus the Great established the first Persian empire in 550 BC. Note how the P evolved to F. The language spoken by Persians / Iranians is Persian, aka Farsi.

 

Iran, from Middle Persian Ērān, is related to the word Aryan and means roughly “land of the Iranians.” The Indo-Iranian migrations into India and the Iranian Plateau happened gradually over many centuries, well before 500 BC.

 

Today, Persia usually evokes ancient Iran or Persian culture, while Iran is the country’s modern name.

 

Back to the ink: this is a pure turquoise. I don't see any green in it, despite what the scan wants you to believe. Check the photo of Iroful paper to get a good idea of the colour range.

 

Chroma

Writing Samples (scan)

Colour is off. There is no green.

 

Rhodia

Midori

Tomoe River 68 gsm

Iroful

Hammermill 20 lb

Photo

Comparison

Water Test

Left side: 10 seconds under running water. Sample written with a B nib.

Artwork

Surprisingly, when added in copious amounts, there seems to be a hint of green. Note the size of the papers. The first one is close to A4 while the second drawing is pocket size.

 

Part of Inktober challenge 2024. I lumped the five last prompts into one drawing on Bristol paper.

 

Jumbo the elephant took to the road with the skilled Navigator, Mr. Cat, and mouse, who played the Violin, in search of one of the most iconic Landmarks: the Eiffel Tower.

 

I used the following fountain pen inks on Bristol paper: Jacques Herbin - Turquoise de Perse, Noodler's Apache Sunset / Lexington Gray, Noodler's Polar Brown, Diamine Celadon Cat, Sailor Kiwa Guro, and Barock Umbra.

 

 

Lady Tatiana having a cup of tea.

Inspired by 19th century Russian literature (Lady and the dog, Anna Karenina) with my usual cat andmouse theme. 

 

Inks used: Jacques Herbin Turquoise de Perse, J Herbin Lie de Thé, Montblanc Origin Coral mixed with a bit of Lie de Thé, and Noodler's Lexington Gray, Talens Mixed media pocket Sketchbook.

 

Ink Characteristics

Pens used: Lamy Safari (reverse EF, EF / F / M / B / Stub 1.1), Kanwrite with Ahab flex nib.

What I liked: Studying history and etymology.

What I did not like: It's another turquoise, and the price.

What some might not like: Long dry times and shimmer.

Shading: Good.

Ghosting: Yes, on Hammermill paper.

Bleed through: Yes, on cheap paper.

Flow Rate: Very wet.

Lubrication: Slightly below average.

Nib Dry-out: Did not notice.

Start-up: Ok.

Saturation: Pastel.

Shading Potential: It's there.

Sheen: No.

Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Did not notice.

Nib Creep / Crud: Did not notice.

Staining (pen): No.

Clogging: Did not notice.

Cleaning: Ok, but the shimmer might take some time.

Water resistance: Non-existent.

Availability: 50 ml bottles.

 

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples, or any other comments. The more the merrier. 😊